A Legacy of Purpose: Conversations with Dina H. Sherif

Designing Systems for Hope | A Conversation with H.E. Ghada Waly on Power, Policy, and the Courage to Step Back

โ€ข MIT Kuo Sharper Center for Prosperity and Entrepreneurship โ€ข Season 2 โ€ข Episode 1

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๐——๐—ฒ๐˜€๐—ถ๐—ด๐—ป๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—ฆ๐˜†๐˜€๐˜๐—ฒ๐—บ๐˜€ ๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐—›๐—ผ๐—ฝ๐—ฒ | ๐—” ๐—–๐—ผ๐—ป๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐˜€๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป ๐˜„๐—ถ๐˜๐—ต ๐—›.๐—˜. ๐—š๐—ต๐—ฎ๐—ฑ๐—ฎ ๐—ช๐—ฎ๐—น๐˜† ๐—ผ๐—ป ๐—ฃ๐—ผ๐˜„๐—ฒ๐—ฟ, ๐—ฃ๐—ผ๐—น๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐˜†, ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—–๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐˜๐—ผ ๐—ฆ๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฝ ๐—•๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ธ

"๐™”๐™ค๐™ช ๐™˜๐™–๐™ฃ๐™ฃ๐™ค๐™ฉ ๐™๐™–๐™ซ๐™š ๐™จ๐™š๐™˜๐™ช๐™ง๐™ž๐™ฉ๐™ฎ ๐™ฌ๐™ž๐™ฉ๐™๐™ค๐™ช๐™ฉ ๐™™๐™š๐™ซ๐™š๐™ก๐™ค๐™ฅ๐™ข๐™š๐™ฃ๐™ฉ. ๐˜ผ๐™ฃ๐™™ ๐™ฎ๐™ค๐™ช ๐™˜๐™–๐™ฃ๐™ฃ๐™ค๐™ฉ ๐™๐™–๐™ซ๐™š ๐™™๐™š๐™ซ๐™š๐™ก๐™ค๐™ฅ๐™ข๐™š๐™ฃ๐™ฉ ๐™ฌ๐™ž๐™ฉ๐™๐™ค๐™ช๐™ฉ ๐™™๐™ž๐™œ๐™ฃ๐™ž๐™ฉ๐™ฎ."

In this episode of A Legacy of Purpose, host Dina H. Sherif is joined by a true pioneer of global development, Her Excellency Dr. Ghada Waly.

From the rural fields of Upper Egypt to the high-stakes treaty rooms of the United Nations in Vienna, Ghada Walyโ€™s career has been defined by a singular mission: to center human dignity in the machinery of government.

As Egyptโ€™s Minister of Social Solidarity, she didnโ€™t just manage povertyโ€”she innovated against it. She architected Takaful and Karama (Solidarity and Dignity), a conditional cash transfer program that supported millions of families by linking financial aid to education and health, using technology to bridge the gap between the state and the most vulnerable.

She later took this "bottom-up" philosophy to the global stage as the Executive Director of the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC)โ€”becoming the first woman, African, and Arab to hold the post. There, she championed an alternative, holistic perspective on security, arguing that crime is often a symptom of hopelessness, not just a matter of policing.

In this intimate conversation, we explore:
โ€ข The "Real Work": How her early days in micro-finance and field work shaped her policy decisions.
โ€ข Innovation in Government: How she used digital infrastructure and private sector partnerships to modernize Egyptโ€™s social safety nets.
โ€ข The Engine of Growth: Why she views entrepreneurshipโ€”not aidโ€”as the ultimate graduation from poverty, and her take on Egyptโ€™s shifting policy landscape for startups.
โ€ข Breaking Barriers: Navigating the UN as an African Arab woman and building consensus in a polarized world.
โ€ข The Courage to Pause: Her candid reflection on resigning from the UN to prioritize family, and what that says about the true definition of legacy.

Join us for a conversation that challenges the status quo and reimagines what it means to lead with purpose.

Host: Dina Sherif
Produced by Sherif Shafie

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